<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><channel><title>Oracle on Feld Thoughts</title><link>https://feld.com/tags/oracle/</link><description>Recent content in Oracle on Feld Thoughts</description><image><title>Feld Thoughts</title><url>https://feld.com/og-default.png</url><link>https://feld.com/og-default.png</link></image><generator>Hugo</generator><language>en-us</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:47:47 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://feld.com/tags/oracle/index.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><item><title>Oracle's Java API Suit Against Google – Five Years Later</title><link>https://feld.com/archives/2015/06/oracles-java-api-suit-google-five-years-later/</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:47:47 +0000</pubDate><guid>https://feld.com/archives/2015/06/oracles-java-api-suit-google-five-years-later/</guid><description>Five years ago, in August 2010, I asked the question Have We Reached The Software Patent Tipping Point? Oracle sued Google over a series of Java-related patents they got when they</description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five years ago, in August 2010, I asked the question <a href="https://feld.com/archives/2010/08/have-we-reached-the-software-patent-tipping-point/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Have We Reached The Software Patent Tipping Point?</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/technology/30oracle.html?ref=technology" title="Oracle sued Google over a series of Java-related patents they got when they acquired Sun" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Oracle sued Google over a series of Java-related patents they got when they acquired Sun</a>.</p>
<p>My favorite line from the whole thing was James Gosling’s (who was one of the authors of one of the original patents and a key creator of Java) when he wrote The shit finally hits the fan.</p>
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<p><em>“The shit finally hits the fan…. Thursday August 12, 2010</em><br>
<em>Oracle finally filed a patent lawsuit against Google. Not a big surprise. During the integration meetings between Sun and Oracle where we were being grilled about the patent situation between Sun and Google, we could see the Oracle lawyer’s eyes sparkle. Filing patent suits was never in Sun’s genetic code. Alas….</em> </p>
<p><em>I hope to avoid getting dragged into the fray: they only picked one of my patents (RE38,104) to sue over.”</em></p>
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<p>Oracle also got copyrights to the Java APIs. Remember, Java was theoretically Open Source, but like so many things in our world when lawyers get involved “it’s complicated.” Stack Exchange regularly has commentary about this. See <a href="https://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/171129/is-java-free-open-source-or-not" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Is Java free/open source or not?</a> and <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2030814/is-java-an-open-source-programming-language" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Is java an open source programming language?</a></p>
<p>It’s not as messy as the Greek debt crisis but directionally similar. And it’s far from over. I was hoping the Supreme Court would take this on and help put an important issue around copyright to bed. But the Supremes passed, deferring to the need for a lower court to rule on the appeal.</p>
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<p><em>“The justices, without comment, declined to disturb a May 2014 appeals court ruling in Oracle’s favor that reinvigorated the company’s case against Google. The appeals court, overruling a trial judge, said 37 packages of prewritten Java programs, known as application programming interfaces, were entitled to copyright protection.</em></p>
<p><em>Oracle has sought more than $1 billion in damages. A jury originally held that Google infringed the Oracle copyrights, but it deadlocked on Google’s defense that its copying amounted to fair use. That issue will have to be retried in a lower court.”</em></p>
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<p>Patents and copyrights are different. And the courts know that. Unfortunately, it’s getting even more tangled up, especially around the critical concept of fair use. This continues to be <a href="https://www.vox.com/2014/11/18/7238825/copyright-for-apis-is-going-to-be-a-disaster-and-only-the-supreme" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a very important case, especially as interoperability between software has become a fundamental tenant of how software systems function</a>, and I’m glad Google is fighting it.</p>
<p>At least we got the <a href="https://twitter.com/joshgreenman/status/614434791505702912/photo/1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">right to marry anyone we want</a> from the Supremes.</p>
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